The McMansion Dialogues
(On December 7, 2007 CityWatch published by our erstwhile neighborhood issues provocateur, Charles Tarlow, offering his perspective on the Mansionization issue. Here is some of the passionate dialogue that followed.)
I guess Mr. Tarlow does not mind having a house the size of an apartment building looming over his backyard. The sad truth is that most McMansions are square, two story eyesores that are built out to 5 feet of the property lines. Even the %26quot;beautiful Spanish style%26quot; home he depicts appears to push out to the maximum limits.
The proposed City ordnance will require setbacks that will prevent second floors from destroying the privacy and light of their neighbors, yet still allow spacious homes.
As far as value goes, few will be able to afford these palaces. As a result, the price per square foot will drop significantly, pulling down values of smaller homes with them.
If you really want to live in a neighborhood with super-sized homes, then try Santa Clarita.
–Paul Hatfield
NC Valley Village
I would like to know which Neighborhood Council you hold office in or belong to; I am the Parks, OpenSpace and Recreation Representative for Encino Neighborhood Council, having had a business in Encino since 1982. I am also a member of the Planning and Land Use Committee; we are dealing with many issues connected with very large houses built up to the required 5 feet from the property line.
I must take issue with your choice of photographs; an enlarged latrine would look like a House and Garden prize-winner if it had a million dollars thown at it, as is the case with the house in the second photo. However, the welcoming yawn of a monstrous garage cavity which is soon to be filled with two or maybe three new gas- guzzlers is not what I would call inviting.
So please do not tar everyone with your own interpretation of what kind of people prefer smaller houses. Or what is attractive and what is not. At least clearly state that it is YOUR OPINION.
–Rosemarie S. White, Ph.D.
Parks, Open Space and Recreation Representative
Encino Neighborhood Council
Dr. White,
To answer your questions, I am a member of the Mid City West Community Council and also am a member of the Land Use Committee. I will have lived on Colgate Ave since 1947 (60years this week), so I believe I have some experience with my neighborhood.
And, of course, I write my own opinions. I do not speak for the council or the committee. I am just speaking out.
I really do not understand why you take issue with the pictures in my article. What you see is the run down eyesore that was built back in the 1920’s and the beautiful home that replaced it. You are looking at the exact same lot on Colgate Ave. I ask you to answer honestly … which home would you like to live in? Which home adds to the desirability of the neighborhood? There really is only one answer. You can make your argument for size limits, but I seriouslydoubt you would choose to live in the %26quot;dump%26quot; that was labeled %26quot;BEFORE%26quot;.
I realize that there are people who do not like attached garages, andif you are in that camp, you are entitled to your opinion. But consider this: most of the 1920’s older homes have narrow driveways that were not made for modern cars. As a result, few people park cars in their detached garages because their cars barely fit through the driveways. Attached garages allow people to actually park their cars off the crowded streets.
I know from your email that we will probably never agree on theproper size limit for new homes … and that is OK. What I hope we can agree on is that the majority of homeowners in their own neighborhoods should be able to make that decision. And that is what my article was really about.
It is not right for a small vocal minority to make the rules for the majority. If the majority of folks in your neighborhood want to
restrict the size of new homes to 1600sf, then they should be able to do it. If the majority of people in my neighborhood want 3600sf
homes, that is ok too.
The new mansionization ordinance is a one size fits all solution. It will help some neighborhoods and hurt others. A better solution
would be to let each neighborhood control their own destiny.
I hope this better explains my position and I hope the new law benefits your neighborhood. But as I said in my article, beware of
onerous zoning laws. They can do more harm than good.
And by the way, if you are worried that my opinions might adversely affect the city’s decision to implement the new law, you have nothing to worry about. It would take an act of God to stop this ordinance from becoming law. Right or wrong, you are about to get what youwish for. I hope you like it.
–Charles Tarlow
Mid City Los Angeles
Regular CityWatch contributor
The City’s General Plan discourages attached garages, and I think Charles Tarlow’s %26quot;After%26quot; picture illustrates why. With that beautiful, new garage that can probably fit two SUVs, gym equipment, and a workbench, the owners of the property still feel the need to park their car in the driveway illegally (within the 25 foot setback). Are they just eager to show off their car, or is the garage being used for something else?
–Teresa Feldman
Los Angeles
This past June, the City
Planning Commission forwarded an anti-mansionization ordinance to the City Council. Our goal was to DO Real Planning. We were led by an unprecedented coalition of homeowners, environmentalists, architects, affordable housing advocates, and civic groups. Inexplicably, our effort has stalled for 6 months at PLUM. If you still believe that this City should take a balanced first step against grossly oversized homes, please read on and circulate this email.
–Jane Usher, President
Los Angeles City Planning Commission
Urgent Need For Action on Mansionization Ordinance
What: Please attend the PLUM Committee meeting at 2 PM on December 18 in City Hall. There is no similarly effective tool quite like your showing up. In addition, you may wish to contact the City Council in advance to express your views.
Why: The December 18 meeting of the PLUM Committee will mark the third time that this body has heard the Mansionization Ordinance. Currently, the City does not regulate oversized homes that disproportionately impact their neighborhoods and the environment. The proposed Ordinance curtails gross overbuilding while it allows homes of more generous size than are permitted by similar measures in surrounding cities. Work on the proposed Ordinance was sponsored by Councilman Tom LaBonge, and seconded by Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Wendy Greuel, Janice Hahn, Bill Rosendahl, Eric Garcetti, and Herb Wesson. The measure was drafted and recommended by City Planning on June 14. The Council has yet to see this work.
PLUM History:
%26bull; At the July 24 PLUM meeting, the Planning Department and the City Attorney%26rsquo;s office were directed to review the proposed Ordinance. In addition, Councilman Jack Weiss directed Planning to offer two changes: a menu of ways for a community to opt out of the Ordinance and a suggestion concerning enclosed porches.
%26bull; On October 18 the City Attorney%26rsquo;s office released the formal version of the proposed Ordinance. The house size limitations were essentially unchanged. There was no change in the porch provision.
%26bull; On November 20 the Planning Department again appeared before PLUM with a menu of ways for a community to opt out of the Ordinance. Councilman Weiss again asked for an expanded menu, and asked Planning to provide an economic analysis of the effects of the proposed ordinance. No funding is offered for the economic analysis, which would require months of study, and, according to an expert in the field, can be anticipated to find a positive effect on property values.
%26bull; Still another PLUM meeting is scheduled for December 18. Councilman Weiss has spoken publicly in favor of neighborhood-by-neighborhood regulations, rather than a citywide rule. The bureaucracy and time that this new approach envisions is, unfortunately, endless. None of us will live to tell the tale.
Action: The most common criticism of the criticism of the Ordinance is that it is too modest. Indeed, it is not tailored to protect individual neighborhood character, which must come via overlay zones, specific plans, and community plan updates. However, while we fiddle, construction continues on houses that are out of scale for our neighborhoods, that invade the privacy of their neighbors, that overuse scarce resources, and that place home ownership further out of reach for the next generation, including our children.
I was surprised and happy to read in Commissioner Usher%26rsquo;s letter that there are some efforts being made to seed control of individual neighborhoods to the majority of home owners in their own areas. This is something I can get behind. Maybe requiring signatures from two thirds of home owners in a given area before restrictions could be implemented.
–Charles Tarlow
Mid City Los Angeles
CityWatch contributor
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